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Stop & Shop Prepares for Potential Labor Strike, Hires Replacement Workers

The company is holding discussions with labor representatives as the deadline for a three-year contract nears on Feb. 23.

 

Representatives of the Stop & Shop grocery store chain are looking to hire temporary replacement workers as it prepares for a potential labor strike, according to a report in the Boston Herald Friday

The Quincy-based company is currently holding contract discussions with United Food and Commercial Workers Union locals who represent more than 40,000 Stop & Shop employees in Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island, according to the Herald. The three-year contract will expire on Saturday, Feb. 23. 

While discussions continue, the company is running eight hiring sites from Mansfield to Quincy to Woburn.

A Stop & Shop spokeswoman told the Herald that the company is advertising replacement workers "in the event of a dispute" in an effort to "prepare so we can continue to serve our customers and remain open." 

Are you a Stop & Shop customer? How would a strike affect your grocery shopping there? Let us know in the comments section below.

Related Topics: Stop & Shop and labor strike

paul

6:16 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Now you all know why prices are so high at Stop & Shop, if you didn't already. Nice company hiring workers just in case and consumers will pay for it. Every union is all about its members paying dues so the union fat cats can hold companies and the public hostage for a new and bigger contract, its called extortion. And when you check out they have the nerve to ask you to give a dollar for charity, can't wait for Market Basket!

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KMAC

7:16 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Paul, I am so sorry you feel so offended by the poor cashier doing their job and asking for a donation. I get offended when people think that union members are demanding HUGE contracts,with ENORMOUS pay raises. Most are living paycheck to paycheck,paying their bills,feeding their families like everyone else. People have this warped image of ALL union workers living the high life. I am not asking for sympathy for the workers nor the union "fat cats", I would just like to see those that love to spew their angry words ,educate themselves on the subject matter before going off.

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paul

8:53 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I do feel offended by Stop & Shop making their cashiers pan handle for every bleeding heart charity under the sun, why doesn't the union put a stop to it? A person can be a cashier or stock shelves without being union trained, it's not rocket science and I work in a union shop. Unions make everything cost more and they are not needed especially in grocery stores. Stop & Shop is the most expensive grocery store in New England and the United Food and Commercial Workers Union is the reason why. Unions rip off their members and blame the company or business when jobs are lost, just ask out of work ex Hostess employees.

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Dave Abbott

11:18 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Paul "Unions rip off their members and blame the company or business when jobs are lost, just ask out of work ex Hostess employees."

You might want to look into that one a little further...it takes two sides to tango and neither side is ever completely in the right.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/11/whos-to-blame-for-the-hostess-bankruptcy-wall-street-unions-or-carbs/265357/

Emcee of Seekonk

9:15 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Maybe Massachusetts needs to join the 24 other Right-to-Work states in the country.

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Tina Mqs

9:20 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

^^amen, that.
There was someone polling exiting customers yesterday about how they liked their checkout experience- about 8 questions .

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Steve C

11:43 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

MA is a right to work state. That is what protects certain employees from being trapped by non compete clauses. You should do some research.

Union members applied for the jobs they hold. They have no right to complain about the company They chose to work for. Go work somewhere else. Don't give me any crap about there not being other jobs as there are plenty in the classifieds.

Target, no soliciting policy so no "pan handling".

Serves You Right

9:22 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Actually...I find Stop and Shop prices to be alot better than Shaws. As far as Unions go...I still can't figure them out..especially non skilled unions. Electric, plumbing, ironworkers, teamsters, carpentry unions I can understand where peoples lives are at risk if the work is done improperly I can understand, but grocery workers unions I've always been skeptical about. The politics involved in Unions..well..we all know what that is all about.....Nevertheless, they still are a union and Union workers will not cross a picket line. Non union workers have the right to cross a picket line just because of the fact that a picket line need not be recognized by said non union workers. Thats the great thing about living here in the UAS. What right does a Union worker have to tell a non union worker what to do, how to act etc. to answer the question would I cross a picket line....of course, I'm a non union worker, it's my right to as a US Citizen, just as it's the Unions right to picket.....

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Terese Bohaxiu-Dicastiglione

10:31 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I switched to Stop and Shop several years ago from Shaw's - I agree that Stop and Shop prices in the EP/Seekonk area are a lot lower than Shaw's. If S&S goes on strike then I will temporarily shop elsewhere such as Price Rite or Shaw's or even try out Market Basket.
For most lower skilled jobs, unions provide no real benefits for their workers, especially the part-timers. It will be a mistake for S&S union workers to strike.

Serves You Right

9:24 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

"Thats the great thing about living here in the UAS." ok...let's try USA........UAS sounds like a 3 stooges country...lol

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Jerry Chase

4:08 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

We're getting there . . . no thanks to the bozos who voted for the incumbent last Nov..

deb of see-attleboro

10:17 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Who shops at Stop and Shop for the prices? Dare I say no one? I shop there because of the the convenience, cleanliness, pleasant workers, etc. I try to avoid shopping there on weekends because of all the fundraising activity.

So, if there is a strike and it affects the convenience, cleanliness, worker morale, and then I have to deal with picket lines, I will likely take my business elsewhere. And the bonus is that I will spend less.

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Dale F. Appel

11:01 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I do not want to cross a picket line. The main benefit of being a union member is the safety of working conditions and workers rights. Without unions in many industries there would be unsafe working conditions. Many supermarket and other retail store companies only pay minimum wage to their cashiers and stock people. Without a union they would never be able to have breaks or a lunch. When it comes to meat and produce, I shop quality; for canned and dry goods I shop price. Overall, I do not find Stop & Shop more expensive than Shaws or Roche Bros.

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Heather

11:18 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Maybe back in the day there would have been unsafe for conditions and employees wouldn't get breaks, however this is 2013. I work two jobs, one I am in a union and the other I am not. There are strict regulations in both jobs that are required by the state. Breaks are required for an person that works 6 hours. There are health and safety inspections at both places. The job that I have that is union is the worst one. We are currently trying to get rid of the union as 95% of the workers don't want to have it anymore as it causes more problems than it is worth, plus the cost of the dues isn't worth it. Unfortunately once a union is in place it is nearly impossible to remove it. If these workers strike I for one think the employees and the union are being selfish and I personally will never shop at Stop and Shop again.

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Gretchen Robinson

2:37 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Well said, Dale. Unions are needed for the reasons you state. Without unions workers wouldn't have any way to stick up for their rights. Together, workers are powerful. All you white collar people, do you have any idea how hard it is to survive on a supermarket paycheck??

Noreen

11:48 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I love stop and shop. I also think they are much cheaper with most of the items they sell than other stores in my area. I see somethings that they are playing around with the products that they sell but overall I am very pleased with Stop and Shop. You have to be a smart shopper to know if they are cheaper or not.

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Kevin

11:53 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Stop & Shop is awful. I worked there for over 5 years. They pinch every penny and hire as few as possible. They also make no one full time because more part timers= pay $1.00 less an hour and the union gets more dues. It's a joke. Shop at Whole Foods where employees are treated right and paid well.

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Stephen V. Kane

11:58 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Stop and Shop produces a great product at a very reasonable price. It is unfortunate they are in dispute. Suggestion: Maybe make this a five-year contract? It seems like only yesterday (2010) we were going through this.

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Briana Auclair

12:06 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Whole Foods is no better in their pay. Every large chain grocery store is set at making sure their workers get as little as possible and the head honchos have mansions and yachts.

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Kevin

12:18 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

You're completely off base. I worked for S&S for over 5 years and have been with WFM now for 2 years. Pay and treatment are much better from Whole Foods towards employees.

BH

12:22 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Stop and Shop is fighting back because margins in the supermarket industry are razor thin. Think about paying $2.50 for a can of soup, now think about everything from the farming of the ingredients, processing, canning, labeling, logistics, all the labor involved and paid for these processes and then resale for a profit.

This isn't about stop and shop big wigs being greedy, it's them having to raise pricing across the board

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HJ

12:32 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I'm thinking more of the produce, meats, dairy, bakery. There has to be a ton of waste when there's unsold inventory. If the union want to fight for a better deal, how about cutting union dues by 50%.

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paul

1:27 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

No, Stop & Shop big wigs are not greedy, that's why most of their employees are part time high school students and retired senior citizens. That's why they ask for donations for charity from the public rather than using Stop & Shop profits. The Union is just as bad with their greed, where does all the Union dues money go? Stop & Shop with 40 thousand workers all paying dues every week while the union bosses drive around in new cars and are having lunch with politicians on your dime. If the strike happens all you union brothers will be cast to the curb and the union will blame Stop & Shop. While you file for unemployment and bankruptcy, they will be hiring your replacements.

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Gretchen Robinson

2:41 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

BH. You are correct. Margins in grocery chains is around 1% which is very tight compared to other industries. With the (manmade) extreme drought in the midwest, farmers haven't been able to grow winter wheat and that's going to drive up prices, as are other factors. But we can't let grocery stores make profits by cutting wages and or reducing benefits. These are real people we are talking about. And I see them. They work hard and for all hours.

Glenn roger Hanning

2:32 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Does this have anything to do with obamacare

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Gretchen Robinson

3:44 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

obviously yes, many stores including WalMart are criticized for not paying enough for employees a living wage and don't provide healthcare benefits. If you want cheap groceries, go to Walmart in N.A. Definitely cheaper and the same products. I refuse to shop there, put another way, it's the last place I'd shop.
BTW Consumer Reports says that Costco is well run (including excellent groceries and produce) AND the owner, founder, and employer takes pride in paying his employees well and providing healthcare benefits. So, it can be done. The closest one is in Warwick, I think.
My question is, why does Attleboro have so few choices. It's either Shaws or Stop and Shop, that is if you don't want to drive all over. I don't choose to drive over to Roche Bros in Norton.

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Bob Ross

4:39 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

The closest Costco is in Avon and you are correct, it(Costco) has been voted top places to work for years.

Glenn roger Hanning

2:34 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

When it gets down to pure survival people will gladly work there whether people respect unions or not

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Gretchen Robinson

3:45 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

have we gotten that desperate? is that what you want to see?

Gretchen Robinson

2:34 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Looks like I'll be shopping elsewhere....but where? Shaw's prices are higher and now that S+S has improved their produce section, I shop there. Whole Foods is beyond my budget and the president of Whole Foods called the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) "fascist." Regardless of how you feel about the ACA, that kind of language is uncalled for.
paul: we need more unions in other industries, too, to stick up for people who make minimum wage, or just beyond. Show me some evidence of your charge that union heads hang out with politicians. Unions are just trying to hang on these days, they are so under attack by the Right which wants to eliminate them so that groups like ALEC can reduce wages even lower.

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c mahoney

4:09 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

roche brothers is a non union supermarket chain and they pay there workers the same amount of money without charging there employees weekly union dues. Roche Brothers gets voted into the top 50 companies to work for in ma every year by the boston globe. If ss had superior people working for them at the top they would not even need a union period. rbs has only about 2o stores yet their stores are much more profitable than stop n shop on a per store basiis.

Mr. Ragman

2:55 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

hey gretchen, why aren't farmers unionized according to your calculus?

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Gretchen Robinson

3:47 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I don't see any parallels between the two?
If you want to look at anything look at the profits made by middlemen and the ongoing decline in the family farm. Meanwhile we have industrial scale meatpackers that give us "pink slime" treated with Ammonia and sold to schools. There is NO substitute for paying people fair wages. If we have to pay more, so be it.

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ruby 13

4:04 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Not one person has mentioned..Hannaford's. I would consider checking it out...I have shopped there since they opened a few yrs. ago and have been hooked ever since. Their prices cannot be beat...except by Market Basket. I have shopped at Shaws, S&S, Roche Bros....and Hannaford beats them all in almost every single dept. and product. I shop and cook for a family of five and cannot believe how much I get for the dollars spent. I also buy alot of store brand items...and know from a retired family member and former employee of the HP Hood Co. that most store brand items are quality brands with Hannaford's store brand bought and paid for....most items are usually anywhere from .50 to $1.00 cheaper. I hope I never have to consider shopping elsewhere. It is owned by Demoulas which owns Market Basket as well. Go try it out....you WILL see unbeleivable price reductions from any other grocery chain.

donald

5:12 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Just love how the majority supports the company and not the workers. Do you really think the people in the wooden shoes care about the American workers ? So go ahead and support Ahold over people who are just trying to get by paycheck to paycheck. Completely understandable because you know they are union.

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Glenn roger Hanning

5:28 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Of course I don't want to see that I've enjoyed union protection and benefits from prior jobs but their are people that are hungry with no job that will gladly take it

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Tina Mqs

6:43 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

and that's the point. no one is irreplaceable. not a union guy getting hands dirty, nor a guy in a high-rise office.
and yes, when you're hungry, you take the job. of course there's always the safety net if you need it. Which pays more, the scab union-job grabbing opportunity or the safety net? I don't know, but it's a factor.

Gretchen Robinson

5:32 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

is it a race to the bottom for most workers?

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Dave Abbott

6:44 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Sadly that seems to be the expectation for the American worker. Management seems to have no culpability, yet even your average person must wonder why they build supermarkets across the street from each other and then complain that they suffer from thin margins. But clearly poor business is only on the shoulders of the worker and their terrible greed. Where is a real leader like Henry Ford when you need them.

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deb of see-attleboro

8:08 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I don't know much about Henry Ford. However, even he might be willing to eliminate expensive human capital by replacing them with machines.

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Dave Abbott

8:52 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Ford was about efficiency of the entire economic cycle. He recognized that if you increased an employees pay they could buy more product, which in turn increased company production, jobs, and salaries. That vision is not shared in today's society. I agree that a strike is not going to help, just like pre-hiring workers by management will not help, but both sides need to sit down and work together and figure it out.

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deb of see-attleboro

9:15 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I think many people would argue that an economy based mainly on what people are willing to spend on stuff has put us where we are today. Saving has been discouraged for decades. The economy is now dependent on planned obsolescence, stimulus and other gimmicks. And now those dreaded government mandates. Obviously, it is far more complicated than I know. And the future looks pretty bleak.
But don't worry. Be Happy:)

Elliot Vincent

6:54 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I have a 61 year old women that has worked in both union & non union jobs over my 40 years of working. Believe me without unions you are at the mercy of corporations interested only in feeding the top members of it's staff. I am very much aware what year it is and have watched abuse at work stopped to it going right back into the direction pre union where your all scared to death to piss your company off. Wake up! They are already telling you who to vote for. Hello. Sometimes I'm glad I'm old because young people are like lambs to slaughter today. I feel sorry for you.

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BH

7:24 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

The margins are industry wide and have been so thin even before there were three supermarkets on the same corner.

Listen, no offense to workers at stop and shop but aren't there other positions/jobs/companies if you require higher wages? Compensation is based on skill level, job title etc. I don't see why there needs to be automatic or guaranteed raises ever negotiation when the job titles, skill level and duties remain the same.

It's a dangerous stance to take,, Stop and Shop could find 100% replacement employees for the wages benefits they are paying today.

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Chris

7:39 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

All I know is Stop N Shop has high prices. If I'm doing a big shopping spree I go to Market Basket. I only go to Stop N Shop for convienence. I worked for Stop N Shop when I was in college years ago and I recall their union fees as high and not really sticking up for employees on many on the job daily issues. But again...this was years ago.

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ruby 13

4:07 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Totally agree with you Chris....S&S has and always has had very high prices...at least a dollar if not more on most items.

Ron C

8:00 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I am a member of AFSCME Council 94 as a state worker because I have to be. My hope is that either RI or MA wake up and vote for 'right to work' so manufacturing jobs return. I have never voted for a strike and will cross this picket line to continue shopping. If you have a job in this economy you should be happy and force your negotiating committee continue to talk. Strike does nothing but lose money for the workers.

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DJ

9:03 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Your such a big part of the problem and corporate America knows it and thanks you.

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Steve C

11:48 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Code Section Ch. 149 §19, et seq.
Policy on Union Membership, Organization, etc. No person shall, by intimidation or force, prevent or seek to prevent a person from entering into or continuing in the employment of any person
Prohibited Activity No person shall, himself or by his agent, coerce or compel a person into a written or oral agreement not to join or become a member of a labor organization as a condition of his securing employment or continuing the employment of such person
Penalties Legal and equitable relief

Why do you all think MA is not a right to work state? It most certainly is.

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Jonathan Friedman

3:29 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Is there still only one in Massachusetts? I loved Wegmans when I went to Ithaca College.

Fiscal Conservative

9:22 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

These workers will be better off if they're out of work for an extended period of time. They'll qualify for welfare, food stamps, rent assistance, heat assistance, free cell phone, free healthcare, all the while not having to pay taxes. Oh, the poor working stiffs, what we have to put up with. Aren't Obama and all the looney Democrats wonderful. Take away self respect and live off of others....the Democratic way. Don't worry, Mr. Patrick will make sure that all in the Leisure Class are taken care of...Tax the workers til they have nothing!!!

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Gretchen Robinson

9:34 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

FC, I was waiting for you to show up with your propaganda. This time it's about how delightful it is to be from the working poor, with all the bennies that fall to the unemployed. And how we only have to blame Obama and the Democrats, then we can throw up our hands and do nothing.
FC we are talking about Stop and Shop workers, employed people who are part of a union. Can you address these hardworking people and their rights to a wage that might enable them to live with at least a little human dignity. Instead of launching the kind of griping we are so familiar with.

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Fiscal Conservative

5:49 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

GR: Thank you for the wonderful feedback. So you know, I was a union member for over 35 years. Many times they won contracts for us workers of 1 - 3%. One contract we receive 0%, yet they were always able to raise dues in the 5 - 10% area every year. Yeah, I don't have much use for them. Many unions have outgrown they're usefulness. Most are now nothing more than an extremity of a political party (I don't really give a darn which one). A survey was done on Right to Work States vs Non RTW states. Yes, wages may be less, so isn't the cost of living. Wages actually go further in Non RTW states. Any way you look at it, the only ones who will lose are the workers. They strike, they will never get back what they lose. They settle, union dues go up and they lose again. The hourly worker will always lose in this day and age. Private sector unionism is shrinking for good reason. Its purpose has gone from truly helping workers to Fat Cat union bosses with political agendas.I hated every year I was FORCED to be in the union. MA voted to be a NON RTW state. Why? Politics only. Ca-ching, Ca-ching!!! Money talks (not for the worker, though).

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lowertaxes

8:48 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Funny Gretchen that you were waiting for FC to show up. I am usually wondering how long it will take for you to show up and spew nonsense. FC his the nail on the head with both his comments.

Kevin

11:04 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

To be fair Dave Abbot, Ford was also the MOST HATED person during the Great Depression. He accused everyone of being lazy and that was the reason for the depression.

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Richard W. Lunt

11:14 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

This is about union greed. Once again, the takers want everything. Once contract negotiations are completed and the union gets what they want, the consumers will be paying for it in the form of high prices at Stop and Shop.

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Gretchen Robinson

11:33 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

PBS' award winning program American Experience is now running a program on Henry Ford. It's on this week. He was also an anti-Semite.

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KMAC

5:21 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Could someone,anyone please tell me exactly what the workers are fighting for? Do you know ? Have any of you worked for S&S or Shaw's ?
Richard L. ...Do you know what those "greedy union takers" want ?
Heather...I also work 2 part time jobs ,1 union 1 not. The non union job pays almost double,however no benefits (vacation,personal day,sick time). I have been employed by the union one for 35 years (full and part time) and yes, I do appreciate my (oh so greedy) vacation,sick,and holiday pay. Sounds to me like you are extremely unhappy with your union job, so maybe you should step aside as so many are out of work and would happily fill your shoes. My nephew worked at Burger KIng for over a year and had to punch out for a 20 minute break. Surely a company as profitable as BK can afford to allow for paid breaks and a little extra compensation for working holidays.
Show of hands......how many would like to work on Easter,Thanksgiving,Christmas without any extra compensation ?

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lowertaxes

8:52 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Why should employees be paid break time? They are off the clock and not working. Why should the company pay for that. And anybody who has ever worked in the restaurant industry know what it is like. There is no time and a half, you have to work holidays. If you don't like it you don't work there. However I would think it would be fair to say you wouldn't be happy with Burger King raising their prices to be able to give paid breaks.

BH

7:26 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Paid breaks? Do you really expect companies to pay their employees for time they aren't working? That's about the worst business practice I've ever heard. Lets do some math.

BK has about 12,000 locations, say they have about 10 employees each and they each get a "paid 20 minute break" each day at an $8 an hour wage.

12,000 locations x 10 employees= 120,000
$8/3 = $2.65 per 20 min
$2.65 x 120,000 employees = $318,000
$318,000 x 365 = $116,070,000

So you expect a for profit company to give away $116 million dollars a year to employees on break for what reason?

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Avon Barksdale

7:50 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Hmmm ... well, right off the top of my head I can say that employees who receive nominal perks like "paid breaks" are more productive, better motivated, and more loyal to their employers. Those employees create better experiences for customers and help to build brand loyalty and repeat business. Those employees also tend to steal less often and cause less wastage through neglect and sloth. And probably the most tangible benefit is that employers suffer far lower rates of turnover - the cost of churning through employees and continuously replacing/re-training new staff is enormous. My bet is that the investment (which is nowhere near $116M when you consider that they're not hiring people for an "extra" 20 minutes every day - they're simply telling them it's okay to take chunks of time for breaks when work gets slow) in providing paid breaks more than pays for itself, and that some MBAs who actually work for the company have a much more comprehensive analysis that demonstrates their ROI, or else they wouldn't do it.

BH

9:56 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Where are your statistics/studies/empirical evidence to back up any of what you just said?

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Avon Barksdale

10:15 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

*yawn* go do your own research

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Andrew

3:02 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Don't see how you guy's can't see through this guy, Avon. He was, by his own admission, a former worker for the state. I'm sure he slipped on a banana peel and now lives on SSDI in his mom's basement, with nothing to do but watch silly tv shows.

As a state hack his days mainly revolved around taking breaks, and many of them. I'm sure he was one of the 90% in the hackorama that was deemed "non-essential" and allowed to stay home, on the public dime, everytime there was a dusting of snow.
How's that for research Avon?

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Avon Barksdale

3:13 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Apparently I hurt poor Andrew's feelings once.

deb of see-attleboro

10:28 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

I won't even attempt to debate Avon's theory. Much of it makes too much sense. However, this can be (and often is) accomplished without the expense of a union.

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BH

11:00 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

It's nice to just make claims (not opinions) produced from your own mind that encompass an entire industry with nothing to back them up with, lends alot of credibility to the argument.

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paul

1:11 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

BH, are you the former owner of Triangle Shirtwaist? You really don't think workers should get paid breaks? I have worked too many dead end jobs in the last 35 years but one thing they all had in common was paid breaks. Have you ever worked?

BH

1:46 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

I believe in "working" for what you earn, which is what I do. What an entitled U.S. notion it has become for people to expect to be paid to sit on their butt and eat or watch tv or smoke or nap or whatever.

Think about it logically for a second, you're getting paid to not work, makes zero sense to me and always will.

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deb of see-attleboro

2:42 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

That's one way to look at it, BH. The other way to look at it is that these breaks are part of an overall compensation package which includes vacations, holidays, health insurance, retirements etc.

Do you think it would be a better environment if people were only paid in currency for the time they work and took responsibility for the purchase of their own health insurance and retirement?

Maybe no one should be on vacation unless they can afford to be without a paycheck. I don't know. Maybe this would force people to take more personal responsibility. Ain't never gonna happen. That train left the station YEARS ago.

Ken Tenglin

2:02 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Most companies pay their employees half an hour of break time for every eight hours of work. Unions also restrict what each person can do rather than creating employees that are cross trained to do other work. Unions promote silly rules such as bread and snacks can't be shipped by the same truck. The federal and state governments now protect works basic rights, unions are obsolete and antiquated institutions that need to be done away with.

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Gretchen Robinson

2:27 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

BH, do you want to return children to the mines and factories. Let's all go back to the1900s. That way we wouldn't need to pay so much money on education.

Let me ask another question. Do you want to eat at a restaurant chain that doesn't give its employees sick time? What if I tell you some of the ill employees have an infectious disease? Or make mistakes in food preparation and cooking? You can get mighty sick on salmonella and e-coli diseases. Or undercooked meat. Let's not be short sighted.

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deb of see-attleboro

2:53 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

You know what I find fascinating, Gretchen? I find it fascinating that the general public is not paralyzed with fear and are still packing restaurants on a daily basis. We somehow still trust enough to have our food prepared in a kitchen we can not see and then to have it served by people we do not know. Fascinating.

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Heather

3:09 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Gretchen obviously you have NEVER worked at a restaurant.

BH

3:34 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

I never made any argument regarding sick days, health insurance etc. We pay for health insurance and illness is random and cannot be controlled. I don't see how they relate to an employer paying for someone to sit at a table for 30 minutes. You can't just say "part of an overall package" because I'm delving deeper than what it is, into how it does not make sense.

And regarding the early 1900's I was not alive back then but everything I've read, watched, learned in school/college, heard from my grandparents etc sounds like there was much more work ethic and many more hard workers back then, not people that expect to be paid for a break.

I probably take a ten minute break each day, somedays none. If my employer didn't want to pay for that I would be totally fine with that.

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Avon Barksdale

3:48 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Instead, how about you add up the number of your work days per year, multiply that by the number of minutes you take in breaks, calculate the number of hours per year (I estimate about 30) and just cut your employer a reimbursement check annually for all the time you admittedly stole?

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Bob Ross

5:03 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

I do want to mention that you have 5 posts today, one with a great deal of statistics, on a Monday. I am willing to bet that it took more than 10 minutes to write your side of the story up, and therefore you were paid for taking a break which is what you were arguing against being paid for. There are not many times when I agree with Avon, but today he seems spot on.

Gretchen Robinson

3:49 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

BH, it seems like you need a little education. Start with this. Note the years of laws passed. By the way it was the mill and mine owners who fought against these laws. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_labor_laws_in_the_United_States

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Gretchen Robinson

3:49 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

oh but, Heather, I have. I did for years.

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Heather

4:41 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

I have worked in the restaurant industry for almost 30 years. Never have I worked at a restaurant that allows sick time for its employees. People are always going into work sick. It is part of working in the industry. Anybody who has worked at a restaurant can tell you that, it is what it is. You either accept it or work elsewhere.

Gretchen Robinson

3:53 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

this quote is from Chris Hedges "On the minimum wage" from truthdig.org:

"If the federal minimum wage from 1968 were adjusted for inflation it would be $10.50. Instead, although costs and prices have risen sharply, the federal minimum wage remains stuck at $7.25 an hour. It is the lowest of the major industrial countries. Meanwhile, Mike Duke, the CEO of Walmart, makes $11,000 an hour. And he is not alone. These corporate chiefs make this much money because they have been able to keep in place a system by which workers are effectively disempowered, forced to work for substandard wages and denied the possibility through unions or the formal electoral systems of power to defend workers’ rights. This is why corporations lavish these CEOs with obscene salaries. These CEOs are the masters of plantations. And the moment workers rise up and demand justice is the moment the staggering inequality of wealth begins to be reversed."

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KMAC

5:12 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

Unfortunately Gretchen some just don't see the logic . What I find so irritating is that nobody on here knows what the employees are asking for,they are assuming that the "greedy,extortionist" are DEMANDING unreal expectations.
Look , in this economy nobody would go into negotiations asking for exhorbitant perks. There's give and take on both sides,and my gut feeling is the employees just don't want to give anything that they've been getting back.
It saddens me to think that some find it really ok to ask an employee to punch out for a break.I am talking a part timer,making $8. So on a 6 hour shift you are getting paid for 5 hours and 45 minutes. Oh now I see, yup sounds totally fair.
Go back and read my 1st post. 2 PART TIME jobs. 1 union (35 years) 1 not (7 years. Thanking God everyday that I am healthy enough to work,appreciative of all I have and not complaining 1 bit about either place.
I am not going to get in depth about union negotiations, we could go back and forth all day. For those who do not recieve holiday,vacation,sick days ...are you salaried ( same pay every week,therefore time off reflected in your pay) or hourly and haven't been with company long enough to earn a vacation ?

Curious,

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Heather

9:24 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

KMAC, I work two jobs neither that pay vacation or sick time. The are both hourly. My husband also works and receives no sick time or vacation and is hourly. We both don't get paid for our breaks. And you know what? We don't complain about how unfair it is. We go to work everyday, rarely calling in sick. We don't take "mental health days". We pay our mortgage and all our expenses. Our kids are fed and clothed and happy. We are hard working Americans. Unfortunately there are not enough out there like us. We don't ask for what we don't earn. There are to many people in this country that feel they are entitled to be paid for not working, and that includes while on break!

BH

5:25 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

I took today off, no pay and I do not get paid if I take breaks. Pretty easy to assume though eh?

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BH

5:27 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

And what do labor laws for kids under 12 have to do with stop and shop. I understand the law, I just disagree with it, get it? So there is no need to attempt to act more knowledgeable, it's my opinion.

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Gretchen Robinson

6:09 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

BH
everyone else gets it. If we don't know some history, we're lost. There was a time when the majority thought it okay if many children worked from an early age. And that people worked 6 days a week.
In any case if we reduce the discussion to a squabble about work breaks, we're really off track and missing what could be a good discussion.

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me

10:30 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

I got to say I do not support the union that stop n shop employees have they do not do anything for the employees not one thing I had to fight myself to get my son changed to a different store because of harassment at one store he worked at union did not do one thing

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Jean O

7:56 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

me---you had to fight for your son's transfer to another store? If he is old enough to work to gain experience, then he is old enough to fight his own battles. He will learn how to do this all by himself. It would be ok for you to guide him on this issue, but not for you to fight for him at the company? There is a definite lack of work ethic among some of working youth, no matter where they work. Mom and Dad always fix things for them. Mom and Dad pay for their college education, buy them cars, pay for their vacations, do everything for them. It's no wonder they live at home. They are not allowed to grow up to be thriving and hard working adults. These same people think that the world is theirs for the taking, without any effort to take charge of themselves. No wonder. Not only do the hard working stiffs have to do for themselves, but we have to deal with parents who think that they can control the work place too. Let you son call in sick for himself.

Gretchen Robinson

11:24 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

me:
That's just plain wrong of the union! Whatever side we all take here on the issues we need to support people who have been harassed like your son.
Is there any recourse you/your son with a complaint with the State against a union?? There must be some way to file a complaint about the union failure to act.

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Indiana

9:53 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

I am pretty sure Gretchen loves unions because of where most of the union dues are going to support. DEMOCRATS. plain and simple

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Gretchen Robinson

10:15 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

Indiana,
here you go introducing politics again. Everything black and white. An absolute dualiism: Repubs--all goodness and light
Dems: all bad and darkness
Nothing is plain and simple these days. Unless you settle for simple answers you've been forcefed them and don't think for yourself.

KMAC

6:50 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

I am so enjoying this lively banter. My MAIN POINT was asking who ,if anyone can answer what EXACTLY the workers were asking for ? I am NOT a union apologist, nor am I a company suck-up. We are all entitled to opinions. If you followed any of my comments you'd see that I am not complaining about anything in my life. Not my union job nor my non union job. I am sorry if I find it a tad unbelievable that so many people on here have NEVER gotten vacations,sick time or paid leave of any kind. Please do not ASSUME ALL union employees are lazy and worthless. I can assure you that nobody employeed in a supermarket that is union is living a life of luxury.And yes, I have a mortgage, pay my taxes and live fiscally responsible,and have for 35 years.
UHM Heather , I do have 1 question....you stated earlier you work 2 jobs,1 union 1 non. You'd like us to believe you receive NO UNION BENEFITS, but pay huge dues? Something smells a little fishy there. If your pants are on fire,better not call those "greedy,union extortionist firefighters.

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Heather

10:10 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

KMAC, I receive NO benefits from being in the union. No sick time, no vacations, we were supposed to get 3 paid snow days a year if school was cancelled but our Union guy "forgot" to actually write it into the contract. The Reps never call us back when we try to contact them and even if we are lucky enough to catch them they don't help at all. That is why 90% of our employees want to get rid of them but they make it so hard to do that it is nearly impossible. Oh and we use the same Union that Stop and Shop does so I am guessing they aren't much better for those employees.

Gretchen Robinson

10:21 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

okay, back to the present. It would help if posters here would google some recent articles. If only to give recent background. Not long ago Shaws went through a similar tactic of saying they'd hire replacement workers. It was scare tactics to increase pressure on workers to accept their offer. Legal of course but really, no way to treat people IMO.
Here's the first article I came on: ttp://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/03/08/stop__shop_strike_averted_as_unions_in_southern_new_england_accept_latest_offer/

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KMAC

5:00 am on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

I will immediately email the UFCW in regard to your complaints Heather just please tell me where you work. I AM a 35 year member of the UFCW so maybe I can help.
I never meant to offend you or anyone,but I do get frustrated with those who comment without knowing the facts. All I wanted was someone to tell me EXACTLY what the 2 sides were asking for and so far no one has answered that. I guess because it's so much easier to union bash.
Peace to all.

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Serves You Right

7:52 am on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Don't tell them Heather, it's a setup. Heather has the guts to tell it like it is. If KMAC is sincere, they'd have the ability to find out on their own....

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Avon Barksdale

8:34 am on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

We're all just posting comments on a goofy blog, there'sno guts or bravery involved here.

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Gretchen Robinson

6:47 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Heather. You can ask the moderator for info enough to get in touch. Don't let the lurkers who don't use their real name scare you off.

Indiana

9:28 am on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Gretchen I am thinking on my own - I am an independent - the union BS is the reason I have not voted democrat since Bill Clinton - it is a joke. This article does not effect me a little. Give people the option to belong to one or not. it is nice that you and KMAC can pull in on your white horses and save the day. get a grip. you are the fraud

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Fiscal Conservative

2:24 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

GR: As a retired union member, as I've stated, I haven't seen an increase in my income from this pension since I retired. I work a PT job in a small business that is just getting by. I have not received a raise since 2006. I do not get any "bennies", no vacation, no sick days, no lunch, no break, no Time And One Half if I have to work extra, no holiday pay. I actually have turned down 2 raises because there are days we may not make payroll. I don't complain. See, like those of long ago, a job provided an "opportunity" to get ahead. Many people during the Depression valued jobs. They were thankful to have them. They were not Entitled to them. Often times they had to work long, tiring hours just to break even. Is that fair? Probably not. Its what they felt they had to do. Responsibility, not excuses were a big part of their lives. Today its the other way around. My dad was a member of the "Greatest Generation", he taught me a solid work ethic. I hold a Masters Degree plus credits above. Never was there a job I had where I felt it didn't provide me with the opportunity to achieve my goals. Often, during my professional career, I worked minimum wage jobs to get the "extras" my family needed. When my daughter went to college, I worked 7 days/week for 4 years to get her through (as did she), without taking loans. It was hard, not difficult. A job is an OPPORTUNITY to better oneself. USA has become "soft" as Mr President said 3 years ago.

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Todd Ouellet

3:02 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

This is a no brainer. Grocery store workers do not need a union. These are entry level jobs. If someone decides to make a career out of stocking shelves then so be it. Unions drive up costs. I hope MA signs onto the non union rights other states have adopted. As for protecting the workers. I am sure Stop and Shop has workmans comp if someone gets injured by one of those dangerous pricing guns. As for job security. NO ONE has real job security. Make yourself something society needs that takes training and skills. Thats how you get job security. I will still shop at S&S. i have no probelm crossing a picket line to get my milk since I have to fork over four bucks per gallon, union or not!!!!

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Avon Barksdale

4:27 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Milk is $2.49/gallon at my local Shaws - regular price, not a sale or markdown.

Gretchen Robinson

6:44 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Indiana, when you start calling names, you admit you've lost the argument.

To others, is our local newspaper covering this? Is cable access in Attleboro (AACS) covering this? Is NE Cable News covering this? The public is uninformed and why?? All I've seen is the help wanted ads for replacement workers. Where do we get information? Why the lack of coverage?
KMAC the union bashing is a national scandal. Look at Gov. Scott Walker in WI undoing decades of progress in support of workers. "Shame! Shame! Shame! said the Democratic state senators who were denied a voice and new laws (full of inequities) were passed. Corporations must be served in the US of A. Not the people.
I don't think Bunny Solomon who used to run Stop and Shop years ago (My husband met him and once worked there in Marketing, years ago). Since then money and greed and squeezing every penny is all that counts. Let S+S cut some of their advertising budget and their CEO's salary and pay humane wages.

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Sandra Corsetti

8:45 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

There is no union at Wegmans. It is one of the top 10 companies to work for.

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Serves You Right

9:56 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

"We're all just posting comments on a goofy blog, there'sno guts or bravery involved here."

Sounds like every other thread here......there is never any "Guts or bravery" when you're sitting behind a computer screen...c'mon....

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Indiana

9:16 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

No GR you lost the argument - Only you can throw jabs and insult??? It os about the politics and you know it. Okay then let's got to a RTW state. Would you want that?

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Gretchen Robinson

11:52 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

and when do we start up the Debtor's prisons and stupid policies of the Victorial era that whole generations fought to change. Get your minds out of the dark ages. Those ads are often bogus. I had friends looking for work that got called repeatedly to travel to Brockton, Boston, etc. to interview and it was some headhunter looking to fill their quota for the month. They had no job to offer and the unemployed job seeker, their unemployment run out, was out the cost of transportation (train and public transportation).

You guys have not one ounce of compassion and even less humility.

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Steve C

11:57 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Gretchen, To many people in this country feel that a job is beneath them. Maybe someone was making 60k per year and now has to take a 30k a year job. That's life. Work hard everyday and quit bitching about it. I am tired of paying for the unemployed or the underemployed in this country. Our unemployment system is a joke. Unions, of which I am not affiliated, are certainly helpful to lower payed employees and management will always battle them for every penny. Its just the way it is. Without those unions minimum wage would be half what it is now.

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Gretchen Robinson

12:05 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

That is not who I am talking about. I have seen women who stayed in low wage jobs and been harassed and threatened. Try coming out and your tires are slashed or there's black ice between your car and the next (even though the parking lot is dry, because someone poured a gallon of water there and it froze.
One man I know had his life threatened because he wasn't Hispanic and 'those jobs' only go to Hispanics. (I'm not be racist here. Hispanics get jobs and don't want to lose them to Anglos).
Steve and others, stop making assumptions. I'm talking about people I know personally. Lived experience. One woman, if she hadn't lived with her impoverished widow mother, would have been out on the street. Another woman was making a decent job but was bullied horribly because the employer wanted to put a family member into the woman's position. She'd had excellent job reviews.
I agree with you about the rest. But lots of people with college degrees are taking lower jobs just to survive.

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Indiana

4:52 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Gretchen - that sounds like it was written right off the rachel maddow or chris matthews cue cards. Nice

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Gretchen Robinson

5:11 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013

those were all people I know. That was the real lived experience of real people who suffeer because of the hate speech and narrowness here. It's horrible out there in the employment world. And it doesn't have to be that way: a race to the bottom (of the pay scale and the lowlife of destroying human decency and the 'right' to make a living wage).

Believe whatever you want. But don't parade it here as reality or truth. Keep your head in the sand for all I care.

KMAC

10:00 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

While I'll agree that it does not take skill to work in a supermarket, why fault those who do?
Never intended to offend anyone.
What I do find troubling is how we comment without facts. Complain and name call without fully reading (and comprehending) what was said previously.
I have no reason to lie,but if you feel better calling me a fraud,that's cool.
Food, for thought...if you apply for a job knowing you'll pay union dues, you have a choice. Don't complain after the fact.
The union is not paying the salaries of the workers, the company is. The company, made up of corporate people, set the prices we ALL pay. The corporate people are NOT union employees. And you'd fall over if you knew what they were making and their benefit package. And as an FYI many began working at store level, working their way up, those very same union,unskilled cashiers and stock clerks, wow imagine that.
When S&S and Shaws were the only games in town they were extremely profitable and opening stores on every corner,hiring,promoting enjoying good times. Did Shaw's not just lay-off 700 people ? Ask anyone who works at either market if they think the prices are high? They pay it too. Corporate greed has alot to do with the prices as well. Don't blame it all on the union. Here's a little tidbit. Of the 160+ Shaw's stores, none of the Vt.,N.H.,ME, stores are union and very few Mass stores are.
Can we all just be kind to one another. Not so judgemental.

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Brandy G.

12:12 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013

I like this comment a lot.

Brandy G.

12:12 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013

Glad I do my shopping at Hannaford. The trip to Easton is worth it when I buy the same amount of groceries and spend an average of $60 less than at Stop & Shop.

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Gretchen Robinson

5:13 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013

Brandy, I agree. KMAC's comments make a lot of sense.

It's so easy to criticize people, workers, unions but it's so
cruel and callous. Tearing people down and insulting the dignity
and worth of other human beings only makes your comments look
sordid. Try lifting people up for a change.

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anonymous

8:12 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013

I worked at the stop and shop customer service desk for three years. I have seen it all, for sure. I can tell you, the majority of employees will not be picketing, and have nothing to do with the strike. The only reason they are even in the union is because it is required to work there. They are all high school or college age students just looking to make some money. They are not the ones looking to go on strike. Please do not punish those in the stores and on the front customer lines for things they cannot control. They deal with enough nnoying customers already.

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Serves You Right

10:44 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013

So then they will cross the picket lines...these......kids who don't know better?

Gretchen Robinson

8:49 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013

I see a lot of employees who do not fit thae demographic of young people. Some of the people in Attleboro have been there for years and are midlife and older, so it's clearly not a fill in job. In any case, it's good to have someone write who has actual experience at a Shop and Stop.

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anonymous

12:48 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013

Yes, many of the employees are midlife and older as well. I can tell you as well though, they have no interest in the strike. Many of the workers have little to no knowledge of the union and how it works, reason being that the union does very little to help makes sure the employees know what benefits they are entitled too. They don't know their own benefits, they can't be mad about them, so they are not the ones supporting this strike.

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Chris

8:30 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

That's pretty much the way I recall many viewing the union when I worked a few years for them. I was paying a good chunk of my check that I could've used for other things and never had much contact with them.

c mahoney

4:30 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

instead of voting on a new contract they should be voting to get rid of their union. roche brothers pays there employees an above average pay rate without taking weekly union dues from them. they are also a highly profitable company with employees that have no desire to be in a union because of the fact they are treated better than stop n shop union employees. not all unions are bad they have there place in the work place just not stop and shops.

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Donald PH

6:09 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Empirical evidence and BS aside,you can bet your very last dollar on one thing, ANY money saved by any Union busting company ,who by the way entered into that agreement because they wanted to, NOT because they were forced to (like at gun point) will NEVER use any of that so called savings to improve the service that you are already happy with, they will use it to improve their own well being..NOt yours OR their current or future employees, who incidently MADE THEM WHO THEY ARE.

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Gretchen Robinson

9:30 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Donald PH, you are right. As I wrote earlier, for workers it's a race to the bottom. Employees are just the means to acrue more wealth and unions are the only way that, historically, workers have achieved the 5-day work week and other progressive rights. Most here know little history. It's a noble history. A struggle for dignity, safe working places, a living wage. If my father's carpenter's union hadn't taken care of him, my family wouldn't have survived. Those who don't know history are condemned to repeat it.

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Indiana

12:12 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Does your drivel have no end?

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Gretchen Robinson

1:55 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Indiana,
I will suggest, again, that your name calling affects how people view your postings more than it does mine.
And why make a personal attack? I have the same right to express my opinion as you. Keep it general.

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Indiana

3:05 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Gretchen I do not care how people view my postings. Sometimes I vote republican sometimes democrat and sometimes indie...I do not need answers to topics to feel warm and fuzzy inside, sometimes things just happen because they do. Do not need to read theories,hypothesis etc...I am socially liberal but strong fiscal conservative. I know I am not right some of the time but say what I feel. Just want people to fend for themselves and if you feel good about yourself the end of the day - great

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Gretchen Robinson

3:13 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Well, I would appreciate it if you didn't go out of the way to attack what I say.
It' gets monotonous. And civility is a good thing.
I wouldn't be here if I didn't know how to fend for myself. I don't write to vent or feel good about myself. Maybe we all should stop with the smack-downs that I've experienced from you and others in the past. This should be an open forum and some of the lack of respect here (from many who post or have in the past--this has been more civil than before the election) turns off writers who want to share their ideas but don't want withering critiques or their ideas, and them personally. Think about it.

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Indiana

4:12 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Fair enough Gretchen...the election has turned everybody's ire to new levels. We are becoming Europe and that is not a good thing. I do not want to wish years away but cannot wait for 2016 and a new leader whether dem or repub will be good. Give me a Bill Clinton again and I am fine

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Jerry Chase

4:18 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

The supermarket business is very competitive, and with fairly-high overhead due to long hours of operations and lots of perishable items . . . to say little or nothing about the legal obligations regarding a host of things. I doubt that owners have yachts and things; though this is not to say that stockholders in publicly-traded holding companies which operate supermarkets (and other things) don't own them. The economy needs investors . . . who will, if they can, depending on their own personal goals, will vary in the types of securities to which they invest.

The way I look at markets is sort of how I see my dentist: I'm mighty glad to have them around. I guarantee everyone that I'll get hungry next week, and "ya gotta
eat somethin'." Would anybody wish to see food and other essentials become scarce or more difficult to obtain? Not me.

Sometimes businesses get involved in labor disputes or disagreements. So do other businesses. Frankly, it happens less now than in the 1950s and 60s. BTW,
I remain proud to be a pro-union man . . . and a Republican, no less. Go figure!

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